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Imagevue Search Engine 2012

01 Jan 2012, 17:40

Hello and happy new year 2012 to everyone :wink:

Well, you will surely ask each other on, "What you wish for this new year 2012" ? So, i really wish that Imagevue has the god damn "Search Engine" functionality :D
I know someone or many wish that too, for example this one : viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2882

-- Edit: Thanks for the link, but no external gallery promo ---

Engine which we can search using "keywords, IPTC, Exif, etc", that's all i want :D

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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

01 Jan 2012, 23:16

We will consider image metadata search for a future release, although I can say it's not top priority. Imagevue has always been focused around having a nice clean interface, and all added interface items add more "clutter". Besides, who would use this functionality except the gallery owner themselves? I certainly don't want to search any gallery I view ...
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

02 Jan 2012, 01:49

Hello Mjau,

Firstly, i'm not here for promoting their Flash gallery system, i just want to show that they can do and have that "image metadata search" system, i don't buy their system and you know that i'm Imagevue customer :D

You said :
Besides, who would use this functionality except the gallery owner themselves? I certainly don't want to search any gallery I view
, yes because perhaps you're not a photograph. The photograph make a lot of pictures and he or people sometimes want to search images only by keywords/metadata, for example searching images > keyword images of > Cars, Books, etc, as you can see http://www.sxc.hu have the search system in order to search the images they want, not only for the gallery owner but also for people.
Can you imagine : Someone looking the image of Ferrari Car then the gallery has not the Search Engine and has more than 100 pictures, so he spent his time for looking the Ferrari Car image in those 100 pictures :shock:
Like you said " I certainly don't want to search any gallery I view ", yes that's you and how about your Customer Care.. :wink:

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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

02 Jan 2012, 06:35

Well, we like to be honest about what we produce, and this is us being honest and unfortunately this may be disappointing to some people. We like to believe Imagevue is best at some things (or else why would we make it and why would people use it?), while other stuff Imagevue may not be very good for. Imagevue is simply inferior for searching and managing large databases with images ... It does not have the correct interface for this, nor an optimized backend. If someone has other opinions, they are of course entitled to this!

You must admit, this page you refer to is much different from Imagevue? Just like flickr and other pages, they may not have a nice visual appeal, but they sure do a good job of searching and categorizing 1000s of images.

As mentioned, we will consider this nevertheless for a future release ...
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

02 Jan 2012, 15:40

The pages or sites i refer are of course different from Imagevue but i only want to refer about their "Search Engine System or Metadata Search System", i hope you understand what i mean and if i'm here writing and asking this to you is because i prefer Imagevue :wink:
As mentioned, we will consider this nevertheless for a future release ...
Yesss! that's will be the good news, when, when, when.. :D

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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

01 Feb 2012, 18:32

Hello Mjau,

I see the Imagevuex version 2.7.6.3 released just from yesterday, but the search engine is not released yet :oops: Could you please tell me, when it would be released the search engine that i'm waiting please, around this month or ... ? :)

Thanks !
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

01 Feb 2012, 23:02

Sorry, but although we will consider this, it would not be imminent until after the 2.8 major release coming soon.
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

02 Feb 2012, 10:34

Thanks, i'll be waiting then 8)
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

26 Mar 2012, 09:53

Hello,

I wonder to announce you that i'll perhaps say goodbye to Imagevue within 2 weeks, because i'm waiting this "Imagevue Search Engine" since 2 january 2012 until now with no news since then, and i'm going to use another system like Imagevue with the "Search Engine system integrated". I know that Imagevue will lost client like me which produce more clients, but it's not my fault, time is money and my clients cannot wait for long :roll:

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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

27 Mar 2012, 02:26

I'm sorry to hear this ... As I insinuated in my last response, search engine for Imagevue is not high on the priority list. We need to follow our designer intuition for Imagevue, which made it successful in the first place, and we don't believe search-engine should be focus for Imagevue ... Imagevue as a designer-portfolio style gallery, perhaps not for huge libraries. For big libraries, there are other solutions which simply speaking are better optimized and faster, although perhaps not as elegant ...

For an Imagevue gallery, the average visitor is there to view a few images ... What will they be using the search for? Perhaps you can provide some example of usage that is not from the admin user?
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

27 Mar 2012, 08:36

Hello Karl,

You already asked me on january (see the 1st post above) what for that Search Engine in Imagevue, you must know that we are clients for you and clients ask you and you have only to answer Yes or No, if you don't want to integrate that Search engine, so just say directly to No, you must know saying Yes or No, never Maybe or Unsure, in order to not wasting client's time.

If FotoPlayer use and integrate a Search engine, is because their client asked for and they know the utility for, if you Karl don't know yet what for that Search engine, so take a look at it and please don't erase their name, because i'm not sponsoring them :

You did erased this :

-- Edit: Thanks for the link, but no external gallery promo ---

Okay, like i see your answer, i'm going to say Goodbye and will sell my Imagevue license to someone ;)
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

27 Mar 2012, 09:47

I'll have to agree with Alt it would be very useful to have at least keyword or other kind of filter search and should not be that hard in html5 version of Imagevue.
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

27 Mar 2012, 10:16

Thanks Grimurnet for your support,

Of course that is not hard creating it on html5 and in flash neither. Imagevue is already great product but will be very more great if they integrate what have to be integrated, the search engine is almost exist in every system known nowadays, even for personal or for professional, even for small library or big library. Imagevue must follow their clients needs in order to grow, well i see no effect til now so, nevermind, i already wait for long, and i go for another system :wink:

Goodbye all !
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

28 Mar 2012, 03:31

Well, first of all, html5 or flash ... this is irrelevant. The search will need to be in PHP naturally, connected to the frontend somehow. Also, it would require a database to be able to function any effectively, and Imagevue could not be folder-based as it is now, because all meta data would need to get stored in the database.

Yes, I did remove your link earlier, and this is just a policy that I am sure all gallery creators have in their forums. It is not because I didnt look at it, because I did ... I did not see an attractive gallery though, and besides, I am asking you how you see search being used ... I don't need to see an example of how it is integrated. So I imagine a user coming to your website, and what are they gonna sue the search for? "bird"? "crocodiles"? Please enlighten me, if a random visitor enter your gallery, what is it that they suddenly might wanna search for in your gallery page? If its a vast library, I might understand it, but this is not what Imagevue is good at in the first place, and I don't see any logical reason why a normal visitor would want a search for this type of gallery.

There are different aspects as to how to create a product. Apple for instance, never listens to customers, while others create anything the customer might want, but that does not necessarily make it into a smart product.

I will not argue your requirement for search and to abandon Imagevue, but we would never have been able to release Imagevue back then, if we didn't make it as we saw it fit.
grimurnet wrote:I'll have to agree with Alt it would be very useful to have at least keyword or other kind of filter search and should not be that hard in html5 version of Imagevue.
How will you make search in html5? At best, you could create some client side javascript that filters away images as you enter a keyword. That would of course only work for pages that are already loaded into the current page, and certainly is not true search. Just for the record ...
 
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Re: Imagevue Search Engine 2012

28 Mar 2012, 09:12

Thanks for your answer above,

And you should say No on your message below, so we won't waiting for nothing, and you must know saying Yes or No in business, never Maybe or Perhaps, you must know that, i'm not insisting you but everyone know that :wink:
mjau-mjau wrote:We will consider image metadata search for a future release, although I can say it's not top priority.
Please close this thread, as i'm not going to reply this again and i'm going to buy another system which understand the client's care expression.

Cheers.