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Hi Mjau-Mjau and Nick, there is a lot of potential for imagevue and i've noticed an increasing number of visitors to my site. It would be wonderful if you could somehow implement an option in the Admin panel for a top banner or side banner in home page or inner pages....or maybe just Ad text links for adsense. Would help us webmasters to make a buck or two.

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If thats too difficult could you tell me what files i need to alter if I want to include a pop-up when someone visits my site or clicks/downloads ?

Maybe you can include the adsense integration + pop up feature etc in the Commercial version of imagevue? It'd make much more sense for me to buy the commercial license then.

I may come across as a little negative, but here is our perspective on this - Our focus is to build the best-looking gallery, with a functional interface. This process includes utilizing large parts of the visitors screen real-estate for the interface, photos and elements. This is even more important in the flash gallery, since it does not utilize scrolling, so we are on a very limited amount of screen space. Add to the fact that Imagevue does not really use "pages", meaning the adsense would not rotate unless triggered by some separate javascript.

Can you add it anyway?
Yes, it can be added, but we simply cannot build this into the gallery design in a safe way that we would officially recommend. Add to the fact that it is an external module running from javascript, which we have little or no control over ... The only way to add this module, would be to create a Html layer that float above the Imagevue gallery, either at top or bottom of screen, where you add the Adsense script. This can already be done by adding the code to the Settings -> Seo ... Even then, you would have some overlapping issues, so you would need to tweak the gallery so that elements dont "underlap" the Adsense module.

Likely, with a new Imagevue html5 version coming some time in the near future, there will be much better margins for adding adsense.

Yes, I can understand what you mean. What about the 2nd part of the question:


"could you tell me what files i need to alter if I want to include a pop-up when someone visits my site or clicks/downloads ?"

I could try adding pop ups or popup Under . (not adsense) Is that possible?

Will adding the popup code in the seo section (where i put G analytics) will make it possible--since the script runs on every page?

eskimo121 wrote:Yes, I can understand what you mean. What about the 2nd part of the question:


"could you tell me what files i need to alter if I want to include a pop-up when someone visits my site or clicks/downloads ?"

I could try adding pop ups or popup Under . (not adsense) Is that possible?

Will adding the popup code in the seo section (where i put G analytics) will make it possible--since the script runs on every page?

What are you going to add in the popup window? This would be possible by editing the template file iv-includes/template/default/index.gallery.phtml. Not exactly sure how you are going to open a popup on "clicks" or downloads though ... you mean you want to open a popup every time someone clicks an image? That would perhaps be the most annoying thing you can offer a visitor and a sure way of getting them to close the window and go somewhere else.

I meant pop ups like the ones from Tribalfusion, Adbrite, Infinity Ads etc. You subscribe with them as affiliates or publisher etc and they put contextual ads (probably images , photo company ads--in a pop-up format) when someone visits your site and you get paid for publishing it.

Displaying a pop-up for every click would be annoying but if i know where to add the pop-up script I can modify it with some time delayed pop up etc.

Since its not a html page, you would need to for example lock into the SWFAddress javascript event (index.gallery.phtml) that triggers each time the folder changes or image changes.

Although its not really my business, I would question if its worth it, because you would require several thousand unique visitors every day to make any feasible amount of this. To get that many unique new visitors every day, you gotta have one helluva popular gallery, and visitors that are hellbent on viewing lots of photos/folders if you are not gonna deter them after popping advertisements on their screen. I find it incredibly annoying myself, and that will not work on mobile devices or tablets in general ... Just my subjective opinion!

right now im getting about x.x.x.x page views a month although the number of unique visitors is much lower. I can put more $ into marketing it once i start making some money off it or atleast see its possible. It's definitely worth it.
Atleast you can experiment it on me (by telling me how to display ad's or pop ups)so i do some live beta testing if youd like and i'll report back the stats and if it was worth it so we all know.
"Lock into the swf address javascript event" - what exactly do you mean? If its too complicated could it be done in paid support option you have?

Also, I talked to the AdWords team last week and they had a look at my site and said the a Top navigation is a must (apparently visitors must be able to find Privacy policy, tos etc right on the first page..and he suggested i put them in a horizontal menu at the top of the home page) along with some other tips like putting more "content" ..articles i suppose..not just pics. If i put any articles on a new page does it show up in the HTML version (so it gets indexed) ?

I already have experimented with this outside of Imagevue, and 65.000 page views a month ... is what a few hundred unique visitors a day? I can guarantee that this will make you less than 1$ per day, probably much less. There is a VERY small percentage of visitors that bother clicking ads ... Do you click them? Add to the fact that Imagevue is an inappropriate medium to be adding banners ...

Not sure who you spoke with at Adwords ... When adding banners/links on your page, this would be Adsense, not Adwords (which is for paying to promote your own website, and an entirely different story technically).

Sorry, but unfortunately we do not have the capacity to work with such a module that is not appropriate for- or in the general interest of the application as we see it.

If you really really want to go with Adsense (you will seriously need to tenfold your visitor mass to even earn any pocket money), then I would probably need to recommend a different approach than Imagevue. You should have a html-based scrolling solution, based on traditional pages, with good room for Adsense ads, that are properly tracked in terms of SEO.

"I already have experimented with this outside of Imagevue, and 65.000 page views a month ... is what a few hundred unique visitors a day? I can guarantee that this will make you less than 1$ per day, probably much less"
-- Now it really depends on the keywords i'm ranking for and its CPC/CPM doesn't it? In my opinion it would make more than a dollar. Usually about 3-5 % of the visitors click. That's good enough.

"Not sure who you spoke with at Adwords ... When adding banners/links on your page, this would be Adsense, not Adwords (which is for paying to promote your own website, and an entirely different story technically)."
--Yes both are different but the criteria for them these days are very similar. It's very hard to speak to someone on the Adsense team unless you are a premium publisher. Also there were other sources but thats a different story.

"Sorry, but unfortunately we do not have the capacity to work with such a module that is not appropriate for- or in the general interest of the application as we see it."
--Alright.

"If you really really want to go with Adsense (you will seriously need to tenfold your visitor mass to even earn any pocket money), then I would probably need to recommend a different approach than Imagevue. You should have a html-based scrolling solution, based on traditional pages, with good room for Adsense ads, that are properly tracked in terms of SEO."
-- Thanks for the suggestions.

ok

In the end of the day, the last comment is the important one here ... Unfortunately, Imagevue just isn't a good platform for this, even if it could be technically implemented.

I think there will be much more feasibility for Adsense in a future version of Imagevue, which likely will be built in a more "traditional" html-based layout.