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Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 31 Jan 2012, 08:54
by sprocket
I'd just like to ask for a little fix with with the TinyMCE if possible. When Imagevue was updated to version 2.7.6 and the TinyMCE was updated to version 3.4.6 a little problem started. I've seen this problem appear and disappear in some past version of imagevue, so it's probably fixable. Here's the little annoyance. When you go to insert a picture onto a textpage (see photo)
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the Dimensions (default picture resolution width and height) of the photo no longer appear automatically. Yeah - it's easy enough to get the native dimensions and put them in manually, but when you have a lot of pictures, and they are all different sizes, it's really annoying to have to jump back and forth calculating sizes and typing them in. It's a small item, but a huge assistance when your just trying to get things done.
P.S. I'm currently running Version 2.7.6.1, so if this was fixed in a newer version, I apologize for post
Thanks for Looking
Joe
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Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 01 Feb 2012, 09:30
by Nick
Sorry about that, we've accidentally overwrote our custom plugin when updated TinyMCE. Thank you for reporting this, please re-download Imagevue from our site, it should fix the issue.

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 22:08
by paydayMARK
Hi!!!

I have a series of problems with the editor... and that's a little bit annoying because I have a certain way I would like to arrage some elements and they just woun't want to listen :) Can you help me?

I know some time ago, in version 1.something :) I was able to see the entire toolbar of the editor and use it fully. Something happen in the meantime and is harder and harder... :) Can you help?

Thank you!

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 22:10
by paydayMARK
By the way... :)

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 16 Feb 2013, 01:01
by mjau-mjau
We removed buttons in the toolbar some time ago that either werent supported by Flash textfields, or simply created a mess (like font colors).

As for your snapshot, I see the text editor and the output, and I am not quite sure what you are referring to. In all apps where there is an editor in the background, it is simply a rich text editor ... It does not simulate the theme background (which could be transparent, or an image or gradient like in Imagevue) ... It simply presents the editor black text on white background, and you generally format your text. The style you have will format the text in terms of color for the actual output.

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 16 Feb 2013, 02:53
by paydayMARK
O!

Sorry,,, I didn't explain it right: I would like that what I see in the editor to result in the page :) that's it. I know is not an extensive editor, but at least to get what I see ;)
Is there any way?

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 16 Feb 2013, 23:52
by mjau-mjau
paydayMARK wrote:Sorry,,, I didn't explain it right: I would like that what I see in the editor to result in the page :) that's it. I know is not an extensive editor, but at least to get what I see ;)
Ok, sorry ... Unfortunately, I will need to give you a heads-up on the main problem here: The output you see in your flash gallery is not traditional "HTML page", but instead a Flash textfield, which supports basic html tags like bold, italic, underline, font colors, size etc. This it does pretty well, because it is very basic text formatting. However, when it comes to the layout of images into a flash textfield, it starts failing on many levels ... Flash textfields dont handle this very well, and will not conform to modern html display techniques like modern browsers do. The WYSIWIG editor in the admin is a generic html editor, so it will display like it should, but the flow of images in the flash textfields version (Imagevue) is often clumsy.

We have banged our heads on the wall with this issue multiple times, and there simply are no solutions. Don't expect wonders from flash textfields, especially if you are going to embed an image ... They will just not flow properly, so keep it simple.

Sorry about this, but it is a weakness of flash textfield interpretations of html output.

Now, if you are very ambitious with a text page, you could create it manually in HTML and instead of displaying it inside flash, you could display it inside a lightbox window (the same that Imagevue uses to display video files). This would allow proper representation of modern html, but it would require creating the html manually.

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 18 Feb 2013, 00:28
by paydayMARK
hI!

Got it :) And I was thinking of the lightbox too... but I hoped there it be something that it can be done.
Now the thing is that I was succesful with a really old version. I don't remember but it was something like 1.8 I think,,, in which I was getting amazing results, Pictures would go and look the same like in the editor and the text was even looking close... after that something happen and "we" lost it :)
Can you check? Can you track back the versions?
I know that in that version the TinyMCE had the entire toolbars in the admin.

:)

Thank you!!!

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 18 Feb 2013, 01:17
by mjau-mjau
When you say 1.8? You mean Imagevue 1.8? In that version, we actually had the admin in flash and also the text editor in flash ... Therefore, the results were pretty much identical to what you got on the frontend. It did not however have any embed-image button, so that would have been handled manually anyway.

As for previous versions of TinyMCE, indeed we removed a few buttons here to make it cleaner. We did not however remove anything which could alter the layout of the images in your textfield. How do I know this? Because flash textfields dont really support anything else than basic text formatting and the <img> tag anyway ... Flash textfields simply align text to the right of an image, and will only flow it below if the image takes full width. There is a workaround to fix this however, by using <textformat>.
Code
<textformat leading="100"><img src="src" width="50" height="100" /></textformat><br/>
In the code above, wrap the <img> inside a textformat, and make sure the leading attribute is set to the same height as the image. Also make sure you have a <br/> afterwards for the new line. This should make sure the text appears below the image.

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 18 Feb 2013, 09:56
by paydayMARK
Thank you!

I do that just by hitting enter several times :) but I was wondering if there is a way to put 2-3 images in a raw... I do understand what you're saying about the flash textfield and I am telling you strait: YOU ARE THE EXPERT! :) I am listening to any suggestions and I am humbly following :)

Thank you and I do apreciate it a lot! :)

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 18 Feb 2013, 10:00
by paydayMARK
Is there any way I can do this? :)

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 18 Feb 2013, 12:56
by mjau-mjau
Unfortunately, no ... As mentioned earlier, we have ourselves experimented a lot with output for flash textfields, and trying to get image layouts to comply, but they simply dont work like that. To be honest, I would simply just give up on the idea and consider one of these options:

# Accept that images in flash will simply flow vertically and go with it.

# For an advanced layout, you would need to consider custom HTML and showing it in a lightbox.

# Last option would be to create your layout in a SWF file, but that would require the ability to use Adobe Flash to a certain level.

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 19 Feb 2013, 13:02
by paydayMARK
Thank you!!!

I will flow vertically. Simple :)
I do apreciate your help and I hope you'll not mind if I bug you in the future.

All the best and once again: THANK YOU!!!

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 07:56
by sprocket
Hey Nick, Just upgraded to Version 2.8.8.1 and the original issue in this post (photo dimension sizes not calculated) is back again. Did you accidentally overwrite your custom plugin again? :oops:

Re: Little TinyMCE annoyance

Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 11:35
by Nick
Please update it should be fixed