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GeoPal
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

01 Oct 2018, 10:08

All seems fine to me now, thanks! /both on phone and Chrome on Windows/
 
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Martin
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

01 Oct 2018, 19:33

Neglected this thread for some time, but now I read all the new developments... wow...
I don't have any remarks because it's going to look so great!

@GeoPal: in behalf of all the others who're gonna use this X3-panorama feature: thanks for all your constructive feedback
:)

I wished my fisheye hadn't been stolen :(
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

02 Oct 2018, 07:21

Thank you Martin, all credits go to Karl for his amazing and devoted work.
I am also very happy with the pano plugin for X3!
p.s. you can always use recti lens for panoramas. recently I enjoy it even more- long exposure panos, gigapixel panoramas, etc...
Best, G
 
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

02 Oct 2018, 16:09

GeoPal wrote: Thank you Martin, all credits go to Karl for his amazing and devoted work.
I am also very happy with the pano plugin for X3!
p.s. you can always use recti lens for panoramas. recently I enjoy it even more- long exposure panos, gigapixel panoramas, etc...
Best, G
Yes, I could use one of my rectilinear lenses, but then I would have to take a lot more images than with my 8mm fisheye (only 4).
What do you use to coördinate the taking of all those images? A special pano ballhead?
And how do you address the panorama nodal point?

Then again I could buy the Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L... but that ones is about 3000 euro... just a little bit too expensive for me ;)

Sorry Karl... this is a bit off-topic :)
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

03 Oct 2018, 03:40

Martin wrote:Sorry Karl... this is a bit off-topic :)
I'm reading with interest. I have learned tons about displaying panoramas for the web last few weeks, but I have basically no clue how you guys shoot them.
 
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

03 Oct 2018, 07:17

mjau-mjau wrote:
Martin wrote:Sorry Karl... this is a bit off-topic :)
I'm reading with interest. I have learned tons about displaying panoramas for the web last few weeks, but I have basically no clue how you guys shoot them.
It's quite simple actually...

Imagine you are in the center of a sphere.. .then you must take images so that the whole sphere is being covered.
Crucial is to assess the best mean time/aperture for the whole sphere so that all the images will get the same amount of light (so, the camera must be in manual mode).
For some parts it will be to dark, for others it will be to light... you can correct this later in e.g. photoshop.
Also important is that every image has some overlap with its neighbour images for stitching them together.

You will need to take a lot of images if you use a standard lens, say 50mm... and even much more images if you use a zoom lens...
Conversely, if you take wide-angle lenses you need to take only a few images.

And if you've got a 8mm fisheye you only need to take four images because such a lens covers 180 degrees of the inside of your sphere.
Two would seem enough (2 times 180 degrees is a full sphere), but you need some overlap for stitching.

And then it gets easier... open your set of images in PTgui where an automated process will analyze the images and stitch them as best as possible.
Some tweaking here and there to make it even better and your pano is ready for manual corrections.
Just some retouching in photoshop sometimes to correct some stitching lines.

Then there is the issue of the nodal point and paralax.
In short: paralax is the shifting of objects in relation to each other when you turn the camera around.
The nodal point is the point around which you camera must rotate in order to have (ideally) no paralax.
Paralax makes stitching difficult because e.g. on one image a tree is a little bit more behind another tree than on another image.

That's why there are special panorama tripod ball heads.

You see... it's really easy and also fun to do...

http://martinbroeze.nl/more/fortasperen/
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

03 Oct 2018, 07:29

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This is how I do it, have several specialized panoramic heads, serving different purposes. Like Martin said, it is great fun. Could be any kind of lens to make a nice panorama.
p.s. great photos of Fortress Asperen, Martin!
 
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

03 Oct 2018, 07:37

Nice  :heart_eyes: Currently working on the X3 implementation.
 
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

30 Oct 2018, 17:33

I have re-read the instruction two times, but to load a panorama it hasn't turned out
where to include a plug-in a panorama? I haven't found
I create panoramas in kolor autopano giga, I have created also in PTGui.
 
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

30 Oct 2018, 18:53

The feature (panorama plugin) is not yet implemented, we are all wating patiently :)
 
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

31 Oct 2018, 03:44

It's in the making. Quite a challenge to implement properly.
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Not sure where you read instructions, but in this post I may have been addressing how it will work logically. There will be more instructions.
 
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

31 Oct 2018, 13:37

Looking great! Can't wait!
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

12 Nov 2018, 21:48

I'm very much looking forward to this plug-in being released as I have plenty of 360 images that I could upload.

From what I've seen of the demo it has been very nicely put together.  Some of the other 360 hosting options I've used are very poor.

I take photos (and video) using an Insta360 ONE and an Insta360 Pro.
 
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Re: support for 360 degree images with navigation

13 Nov 2018, 03:38

neebster wrote:I'm very much looking forward to this plug-in being released as I have plenty of 360 images that I could upload.
Good to hear! I'm away a few more days, but should be finalizing the X3.26 panorama plugin release in the next couple of weeks ...